He himself does not remember anything about his earliest childhood. We have given him the Armenian name Abram, his Kurdish name was Lutfo. As he grew up and from some children he understood that he was a Christian, an Armenian. The national feeling awoke in him, and he immediately was ready to follow our agent from Arabpounar when one day that man came to that village searching for Armenians.

Left our care: September 25, 1927. Relatives.